Posts by The Rebel

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The lazy mans way to start a new O.P.

by The Rebel in

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hope you are understanding, if i shorten a reply i made on another thread and make it an o.p.. i honestly believe, we are all here as writers creating our small masterpieces.

i believe each of our posts brings light to the air of who we really are.

this forum is our form of artistic expression which we were denied in the organisation.

The Rebel

Iown Mylife " I enjoy getting to write without worrying about who might not approve of the content"

The Rebel. I went to a Polish wedding on Saturday, with each speech a snaps was drunk, ( Vodka) my wife got out of it because she was driving, as for myself I drunk my share with a few bottles of the grooms home made beer. Anyway my point was this was very different from a Jehovers Witness wedding, but it was a great wedding, and nobody was drunk except myself ( I am not used to vodka) and I learnt from it, why should I disapprove of a the " content" of other wonderful people's enjoyment. Once again It was a great wedding, and more importantly between two people who obviously loved each other.

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The lazy mans way to start a new O.P.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

hope you are understanding, if i shorten a reply i made on another thread and make it an o.p.. i honestly believe, we are all here as writers creating our small masterpieces.

i believe each of our posts brings light to the air of who we really are.

this forum is our form of artistic expression which we were denied in the organisation.

The Rebel

Hope you are understanding, if I shorten a reply i made on another thread and make it an O.P.

I honestly believe, we are all here as writers creating our small masterpieces. I believe each of our posts brings light to the air of who we really are. This forum is our form of artistic expression which we were denied in the organisation. I feel if watchtower survivors can be respecting of each other's moral, religious and scientific standpoint, then as a group we have achieved something that was impossible in an organisation where independent thinking was denied.

As for myself I appreciate being able to express the dominant emotions within me, and I now try to unite in harmony with each poster, even when our feelings and beliefs are contradictory to each other. By doing so I feel I have come along way. A very long way. I am sorry for all those posts in which I have failed in that objective.

How do you feel about the small masterpiece you are writing on this forum?

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Describe your witness self, then describe yourself now.

by The Rebel in

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my witness self :-very hollow, slightly lofty, characteristically judgemental, overwhelmingly convincing.. my non-witness self:- and in my imperfect way no longer taking the passive attitude to reality, and most importantly no longer feeling an outsider with my " true" friends..

The Rebel

How do I respond to the comments on this thread?

I honestly believe, we are all here as writers creating our small masterpieces . I believe each of our posts brings light to the air of who we really are. This forum is our form of artistic expression which we were denied in the organisation. So today I have read all your replys, and I feel if watchtower survivors, can be respecting of each other's moral, religious and scientific stand point, then as a group we have archived something that was impossible in an organisation where independent thinking was denied.

So I now try to unite in harmony with each poster, even when our feelings and beliefs are contradictory to each other. By doing so I feel I have come along way. A very long way. I am sorry for all those posts when I fail at this objective

Compound & Complex, your posts made me realize that despite my education (or luck of it) I can use words to express myself. That even if my grammar and spelling are poor, it doesn't have to effect expressing the dominant emotions within me. I can only thank you a thousand times for that.

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Describe your witness self, then describe yourself now.

by The Rebel in

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friends

my witness self :-very hollow, slightly lofty, characteristically judgemental, overwhelmingly convincing.. my non-witness self:- and in my imperfect way no longer taking the passive attitude to reality, and most importantly no longer feeling an outsider with my " true" friends..

The Rebel

Toesup " now I know what is wrong ( I KNOW TTATT), I don't ask what is wrong anymore. I know.

The Rebel. Nobody who has seen The Cherry Orchand can forget when the characters make their last tour of the Kingdom Hall, they're leaving. " Goodbye, old home!" .So when we chop down all the Kingdom Halls, lets never let us chop down the Cherry Orchards that reside in them. However we are just luckily enough to see the Cherry Orchand differently. We are no longer under its influence, and I hope someday everyone leaves, and discovers TTATT.

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Those who are covertly awake.

by Thisismein1972 in

ok, i work as a taxi driver, and have had a few witnesses in my car already.

as there is no where to run, and being in a confined space, there is no choice other than to create small talk.

after all, shunning someone who is essentially responsible for taking said witness home could lead to a rather embarrassing outcome!

The Rebel

I was in town and an Elders wife went out of her way to say hello with me and inside I burst into laughter. It was appreciative laughter, as I realized it wasn't a question of being "awake" to watchtower indoctrination. It was simply human nature and this lady was simply unable to shun a friend. As for the shunners I don't blame watchtower indoctrination, but I do question the shunners human nature.

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Describe your witness self, then describe yourself now.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

my witness self :-very hollow, slightly lofty, characteristically judgemental, overwhelmingly convincing.. my non-witness self:- and in my imperfect way no longer taking the passive attitude to reality, and most importantly no longer feeling an outsider with my " true" friends..

The Rebel

I think it's impossible to move from one room to another without being buttonholed by someone, and since leaving the witnesses I am trying not to do this. I have learnt that a person, the real fruit of a person is not always what they believe but what is inside. It's not even who they appear, I have known many a pathetic alcoholic, but when I got to really know them, wow they rate up their with the finest people I have known.

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Describe your witness self, then describe yourself now.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

my witness self :-very hollow, slightly lofty, characteristically judgemental, overwhelmingly convincing.. my non-witness self:- and in my imperfect way no longer taking the passive attitude to reality, and most importantly no longer feeling an outsider with my " true" friends..

The Rebel

my witness self :-Very hollow, slightly lofty, characteristically judgemental, overwhelmingly convincing.

my non-witness self:- And in my imperfect way no longer taking the passive attitude to reality, and most importantly no longer feeling an outsider with my " true" friends.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

The Rebel

Kate Wilde started this O.P " I Conclude evolution is guided" ? and Vivianbe started an O.P " What is Spirit"? As for myself I started an O.P " Did Man Land on the Moon" ?

Talk about starting questions without answers.....Oh for Gos sake ( One poster is athiest, another agnostic, another a scientist ect) shut up...this O.P may as well be talking about " identifying three discrepancies in Einsteins special theory of Relativity, with special reference to the constant 3x/c.

Sorry may be I am out of order, and I don't consider myself a smart thinker, but I think having read the thread up till page three I concluded evolution is not guided. So why do those that explained factually " evolution is not guided" not leave it on page three?

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The worldwide fear policy....

by The Rebel in

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it seems the media heavily underline the dark side in everything.

yes there are really bad problems in the world and they need to be addressed.

but we also need to keep on the positive.

The Rebel

it seems the media heavily underline the dark side in everything. Yes there are really bad problems in the world and they need to be addressed. But we also need to keep on the positive. For example whilst I dislike the power of the multi media ( advertising) I also appreciate the benifits of multi media power and its technology. So whilst I personally feel science and technology has cut of human feelings, I also appreciate medical science has been a great benifit and my lifespan extended because of it.

Now as for advertising personally I feel it has created artificial expectations of men and women to sell its products, but provided it doesn't put false slogans with the advertisements, I can live with it. Anyway I guess our entertainment industry has always given us beautiful images of men and women and it does so because that's what we want to see. So why focus on the dark and say such images of human beings dehumatize the average person and make us feel inferior?

So do you also feel the news people and politically correct groups focus too much on the dark side of everything? Remember it's just our opinion posted under " friends" and other view points are equally respected.

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Post votes rolled up to topics

by Simon in

just an experiment to see if it's useful or not .... the likes and dislikes for posts are now rolled up to the topic so you can see whether a topic is mostly positive or negative (or maybe a battleground?).

with some 'decay' to the votes built in this might evolve into "most vibrant topics" based on more than just the number or recency of replies (ideally all will factor in).. ps: don't worry if some topic totals are wrong right now - i need to run a job to put some of them right..

The Rebel

Just an additional observation on some threads positive and negative dislikes fly all over the place. However often a great point is made. It's a bit like tennis. One of my pet hates is watching tennis matches. However I think the scoring is great, 15/ luv, 30 luv/ then 40 / luv then game set and match and hopefully finnished.

So to clarify the only thing I like about tennis is the scoring, yet the game can still go on forever :-) However my wife loves it. Why I sit through Wimbledon with her, I will never know

p.s I have also noted threads with post votes often become so involved, that a new poster joining the thread offering a third and valued perspective is ignored.